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Walking out the door

During her 13 years of practicing law, Christy L. Murphy has been called “honey” and “sweetie” by older men when they were adversaries in legal cases.

“This is an old boys’ network,” says Murphy, 40, a partner at Bischoff Martingayle in Norfolk. “It’s hard to get people out of the mindset.”

Law firms are modernizing technology, cybersecurity and training, she says, “but many lack a concerted effort to modernize thinking about how to address and treat employees from a glass-ceiling perspective.”

Some people don’t think a glass ceiling exists; others think it’s no big deal, Murphy says, adding that she has encountered no issues at Bischoff Martingayle. “We are treated equally here, and other firms could learn from my current firm.”

Data show divergent courses — “stunning in their disparity” — for men and women in the legal profession, according to a recent report by the American Bar Association that explores why an alarming number of experienced women lawyers are leaving the profession.

Glass ceilings persist

More than 50% of law school graduates are women, but they represent less than 25% of equity partners in the Am Law 200, a ranking of the 200 largest U.S. firms, according to the ABA’s November 2019 report, “Walking out the Door,” by Roberta D. Liebenberg and Stephanie A. Scharf.

“Why the massive gap?” the authors write. “Why have women been fleeing law firms and the legal profession in droves?”

Female attorneys are as intellectually challenged in their work as men, according to the report, but they do not advance along the same trajectory. They report having less access than their male counterparts to the building blocks of success. In particular, female attorneys cite being overlooked for promotions, salary increases and business development opportunities.

Despite efforts by law firms to address such discrepancies, including endorsing women’s initiatives and creating women’s leadership networks, glass ceilings persist.

When it comes to the practice of law, gender is irrelevant, Murphy says. “If you’re dedicated, prepared and do really good work for your client, those are the things that make you successful in your career.”

Murphy is grateful for the senior female attorneys who came before her. “The path was forged for us,” she says, “and that path was much harder.”

While women continue to be underrepresented in management and equity positions, they are making headway.

Work-life balance

Monica T. Monday has been the managing partner at Gentry Locke Attorneys in Roanoke since 2013. Photo by Don Petersen

Monica T. Monday, managing partner of Gentry Locke Attorneys in Roanoke, was the first female lawyer to lead a large law firm in Virginia — a position she has held since 2013.

Other female partners have followed suit since then: Margaret Hardy, president of Sands Anderson and managing shareholder of its Fredericksburg office, and Courtney Paulk, president of Hirschler in Richmond.

But their numbers are few, considering that women have been entering the legal profession in large numbers for the past four decades.

“I can’t speak for everyone — only to my personal experiences,” Monday says. “I hope my story will show how all lawyers — whether women or men — can carve their own paths.”

Monday, 53, started at Gentry Locke in 1993 as a full-time lawyer and became a partner within six years.

When the opportunity arose for ownership, she was pregnant and her commute to Roanoke was more than one hour each way.

Monday’s son was born in 2004, the same year she became an owner. She worked part time and from home at least one day a week.

“The arrangement enabled me to balance my life,” Monday says. “The firm gave me the flexibility to do what would work for me.”

She was provided leadership opportunities, including serving as chairwoman of several committees, before advancing into management.

Firms invest time and resources to develop their employees, Monday says. “They do not want to lose lawyers.”

Attorneys should also ask for what they need to be successful, Monday says. “It’s important for law firms to be open and receptive to the needs of individual attorneys, male and female.”

The gender issue has been plaguing the profession for too long, she says. “In the 25 years I have been practicing law, it’s been the same conversation.”

Monday recalls speaking years ago with a senior female attorney who was lamenting the fact that women were leaving the profession.

To this day, that attorney’s words echo in Monday’s head: “We fought for you. We fought for you to be able to succeed.”

The trailblazers were women who graduated from law schools in the 1950s, 1960s and early 1970s.

Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 86, the second of only four female justices to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court, was rejected for a clerkship in her early years because of her gender.

“We have come a long way,” Monday says. “We need to have open conversations about how we can make this work for everyone.”

Mom or management?

Monday’s experience is unusual, says Alison M. McKee, an attorney at Kaufman & Canoles in Virginia Beach.

“Monica is a mom and a managing partner, but that is more the exception than the norm,” McKee says. “I don’t see a lot of women in top management or on executive committees.”

“I don’t see a lot of women in top management or on executive committees,” says Alison M. McKee, president of the Virginia Bar Association. Photo by Mark Rhodes

McKee, 59, started practicing law at Hunton & Williams (now Hunton Andrews Kurth) after graduating from the University of Virginia School of Law in 1984.

She considered leaving the firm after her second child was born, but she worked part time and became a partner in 1993. “Hunton & Williams was extremely flexible and willing to work with me,” recalls McKee, who resumed a full schedule but withdrew as a partner in 1996 after the birth of her third child. The firm encouraged her to stay on a part-time basis.

By the time her fourth child was born in 2001, her life was out of balance. She resigned and stayed home for five years to rear her two girls and two boys.

“Our profession is driven by numbers,” McKee says. To advance at large law firms, associate attorneys typically are required to hit 1,800 to 2,000 billable hours a year — “that’s a lot of hours” — and bring a targeted number of new clients to the firm.

“Because our jobs are so time-intensive and there are only so many hours in the day, especially when you’re taking care of kids, it’s hard to hit those numbers.”

McKee returned to work at Kaufman & Canoles in June 2008. President of the Virginia Bar Association, she will be only the fourth woman to hold the job in the trade group’s 132-year history.

McKee advocates alternative paths to leadership to create more gender equity. “Sometimes numbers don’t tell it all. Someone may meet the numbers but not have the best judgment to be a good manager. The numbers often tell a lot but you have to look at the bigger picture.”

Flexibility is key

Joy Fuhr, an equity partner at McGuireWoods in Richmond and national chair of the firm’s Women’s Lawyers Network, says she was able to navigate her career with the help of a nanny and a flexible work schedule.

“I haven’t done a heck of a lot else besides family and law for the past 25 years. I try to do those two things at a high level,” says Fuhr, 57.

Fifty percent of the top-tier income earners at McGuireWoods are women and 35% are department chairs, she says. The firm has an 80% retention rate of women who go through leadership training.

“Our numbers reflect our efforts,” Fuhr says. “The more diverse opinions and different perspectives, the better the overall results.”

Woody Fowler, CEO of Williams Mullen in Richmond, says recruitment, promotion and retention of female attorneys are priorities. The firm’s composition needs to reflect the communities and clients it serves, he says.

Williams Mullen has adopted family-friendly policies, including flexible work arrangements, and is revisiting how it can better help attorneys transition back to work after family leave, Fowler says.

Women partners hold about one-third of leadership positions at Williams Mullen, on par with the national industry average. But “we aspire to be better than average,” Fowler says.

Gender disparities most often arise in compensation decisions, says Ann Sullivan, founder of Sullivan Collins Law Group in Norfolk.

The boutique employment law firm was founded in 2013 for women attorneys looking for a better work/life balance and for those returning to work after a hiatus.

Pay discrepancies are not endemic to the legal profession, she says, but they are widespread among industries.

Sullivan supports open — not confidential — discussions about compensation to promote equity. Paid parental leave and flexible maternity and paternity leave would help stabilize pay inequities, she says. 

According to the ABA’s “Walking out the Door” report, experienced female attorneys cited caretaking commitments as the top reason why they leave their firms.

“I know what the statistics are; I know what the pressures are,” says Cassandra “Sandy” C. Collins, a litigation partner at Hunton Andrews Kurth in Richmond.

Gender disparity never occurred to her when she was recruited fresh out of law school in 1989 to what was then Hunton & Williams.

“I’m a small-town girl,” Collins says. “I grew up in a town of 400 in eastern Kentucky. We had no lawyers in my family. My parents raised me to believe I could accomplish anything I put my mind to.”

The firm had four female partners when she started. Now close to a quarter of those attorneys, or about 90, are partners. Collins made partner in 1997.

“I fell into a practice with two fabulous male mentors,” she says. “I’ve had an incredible 30-year journey.”

The practice of law is challenging, regardless of gender, Collins says, but it’s tougher for women. “There hasn’t been as much progress and it hasn’t happened as quickly as we would like.” 

The Big Bank theory

The $66 billion merger of BB&T Corp. and SunTrust Banks Inc. is expected to dramatically change Virginia’s banking landscape — and the repercussions may prove surprisingly beneficial for the commonwealth’s community banks.
Combining regional powerhouses BB&T and SunTrust under a new name, Truist Financial, makes sense in terms of efficiency and cost savings, banking experts say. But the all-stock deal — creating the sixth-largest U.S. bank, with assets of $442 billion — will affect Virginia banking for a long time, they predict.

“Virginia is ground zero for overlays,” says John Asbury, president and CEO of Richmond-based Atlantic Union Bankshares Corp., referring to overlapping operations of BB&T and SunTrust. “The merger has sweeping implications for Virginia — causing a multiyear disruption — and it’s perfect timing for us.”

The fallout, which will include divestitures, branch closings, layoffs and other disruptions, will bring opportunity for community banks. And as Virginia’s largest independent bank, Atlantic Union is positioned to be one of the “bigger beneficiaries of this merger,” according to an April investment report from research analyst Laurie Hunsicker, managing director of Washington, D.C.-based Compass Point Research & Trading LLC. 

The company recently completed mergers extending its footprint across the commonwealth, creating what Asbury has described as the first statewide, Virginia-based regional bank in 20 years.

Announced in February, the BB&T-SunTrust deal — one of the largest in more than a decade — is expected to close in the fourth quarter of this year, pending regulatory approvals. However, due to federal antrust laws,  the big banks must divest of $1.3 billion in deposits, including $432 million in Hampton Roads.

“We’re concerned about reducing competition in certain markets,” says Adam Drimer, assistant vice president at the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, discussing divestitures in general. “We don’t want a situation where one bank acquires another and creates a monopoly.”

Half of the 282 overlapping BB&T and SunTrust branches in Virginia — those within two miles of each other — are expected to close, according to Atlantic Union’s calculations, and hundreds of jobs will be eliminated. That development is expected to create opportunities for Virginia banks like Atlantic Union to add customers, pick up or expand branch locations and hire talented people.

An estimated 740 branches will be shuttered across the SunTrust-BB&T footprint, which extends from Pennsylvania south to Florida and west to Texas.

Besides Hampton Roads, other Virginia areas that will be impacted by BB&T-SunTrust divestitures include Charlottesville, Roanoke and Martinsville, according to Atlantic Union data.

In a move that will take place during the next two years, Richmond will lose the SunTrust Mortgage headquarters to Greensboro, North Carolina.

SunTrust spokesman Mike McCoy declined to say how many jobs would be affected. However, the combined bank is expected to maintain a “significant presence” in its mortgage operations in Richmond, he says.

“A merger always creates disruption,” says Robert Aston, CEO and founder of TowneBank. “BB&T knows how to do it well, but it always creates disruption.”

‘A lot of stir’
Although touted as a merger of equals, Winston-Salem, North Carolina-based BB&T (with $225.7 billion in assets) is acquiring Atlanta-based SunTrust (with $216 billion in assets). Truist’s headquarters will be in Charlotte, North Carolina.

In shedding deposits, the banks will devise a divestiture plan, which must be approved by regulators, including the Richmond and Atlanta Federal Reserve banks as well as the Fed’s Board of Governors in Washington, D.C.

“They tell us what they want to do,” Drimer says. “We review it and sign off or tell them it’s not acceptable.”

“Regulators will go to great lengths to make sure banks don’t cherry-pick and sell their least-valuable deposits,” Asbury says.

“Historically, branch sales are made in bulk,” says Kent Engelke, chief economic strategist at Capitol Securities Management Inc., a brokerage and investment advisory firm in Henrico County.

Nonetheless, that practice may not be possible in this case. Large community banks likely will bid on the deposits, he says.

“When you have a merger with two banks of this size, it creates a lot of stir in the industry,” says Bruce Whitehurst, president of the Virginia Bankers Association. “Small banks are paying attention to how this will shake out. They see a strategic opportunity to acquire some of those branches.”

Atlantic Union doesn’t expect to purchase shuttered BB&T and SunTrust branches, Asbury says, but it’s closely watching for opportunities to “selectively upgrade” its own branch locations and incrementally expand business in markets where it’s currently competing with the bigger banks.

BB&T and SunTrust say they are too early in the merger process to determine how they will accomplish the divestitures.

“We know there are many questions, and we’re still very much in the planning stages,” says BB&T spokesman David R. White. “We announced the deal in February, and the companies won’t legally come together until much later this year. This is a long journey, and we’ve got a lot of work to do with our new teammates over the next several months.”

The stock market appears to like the transaction, with company stocks initially responding favorably. Even so, the deal is not likely to set off a wave of mergers and acquisitions, banking experts say.

It may cause some people to think about partnering with banks of comparable size, Aston says. “But it doesn’t offer much of a catalyst for mergers and acquisitions.”

In the meantime, it is business as usual for BB&T and SunTrust customers, White says.

They will be given ample notice of any changes, including whether their deposits are sold, he says. (Deposits include savings, checking and money market accounts, encompassing all interest- and noninterest-bearing accounts.)

Statewide shake-up
“No state will have more of a combined presence than Virginia,” Asbury says of the pending merger.

The deal is expected to shake up the leadership of Virginia’s banking market. BB&T currently ranks second in deposit market share in the commonwealth, while SunTrust is No. 4. After the merger, Truist will be No. 1 in Virginia, holding 25% of all deposits (or 25 cents of every $1), followed by Wells Fargo at No. 2 and Bank of America at No. 3.

The only Virginia banks in the top five will be Atlantic Union at No. 4 and TowneBank at No. 5. TowneBank has about $11.5 billion in assets, while Atlantic Union holds $16.9 billion. The rest of the Virginia regional banks have less than $4 billion in assets apiece. By comparison, Truist will have $442 billion in assets.

“No one is close,” Asbury says about the local position of Atlantic Union. “We clearly will face off against the three largest positions.”

Atlantic Union executives say they don’t plan to bid on the divested deposits for multiple reasons, including the fact that “there’s nothing to stop those customers from going back if they choose to do so, ” Asbury says.

And it’s also more than likely that BB&T and SunTrust will sell those accounts to an out-of-state bank instead of to a competitor like Atlantic Union, he points out.

However, in the merger’s aftermath, Atlantic Union does expect to gain customers and employees who prefer smaller financial institutions and local decision-making. “We do a good job growing the company organically one customer at a time,” Asbury says.

Community banks generally are more receptive to customer needs than larger national banks and have the ability to tailor solutions to situations, Engelke says. “Many times, large organizations have a cookie-cutter approach to smaller customers.”

Some BB&T and SunTrust retail banking customers in Virginia originally came from local banks like Crestar (a SunTrust acquisition), Asbury says, but now their bank is changing “into something that has clearly more of a national scale. ” And Atlantic Union sees an opportunity to sell those customers on a more localized experience.

A market tracking survey conducted this year by Greenwich Associates found that nearly 80% of potential customers in Atlantic Union’s market would consider switching to the bank.

J.D. Power ranked Atlantic Union the No. 1 Mid-Atlantic bank for customer satisfaction in April. And as a Virginia-based bank, “the buck stops here, ” he says. “We’re not taking orders from some far-flung headquarters. We understand these markets. We live here. ”

Atlantic Union can accommodate large corporate clients but it’s also still small and regional enough that it offers a hometown feel, Asbury says. The bank’s top leaders “talk to [retail] customers all the time, ” he says. “If someone sends us a compliment, we respond. If someone sends us a complaint, we’ll talk to them. … And if we’re wrong, we’ll make it right.”

A new talent pool
Small and midsize business customers will be most affected by the merger, says Brian Plum, chairman of the Virginia Association of Community Banks and also CEO of Blue Ridge Bank in Luray.

Commercial relationships are highly personal, Plum says, noting that business owners often are more loyal to the bankers they work with than the banks themselves. “Most will follow those individuals if they leave one bank for another.”

The migration to other banks will take place over years as business loans mature and as companies refinance their debts, Plum says.

“Community bankers know their business communities, and they know their target audience,” he says, adding that bankers have been having conversations with customers about the ripple effects of the merger since the day the deal was announced.

Business owners in general wonder whether their business models will fit the new structure, Plum says, but he believes most individual customers will be unaffected by the merger.

Retail deposit holders tend to stick with their banks, since most do online banking and switching banks is seen as a hassle, industry experts say.

Even so, a bank can sell a customer’s deposits but can’t force that customer to stay with the buyer, Aston says, adding that retention rates are questionable.

TowneBank hopes to benefit by adding talent in specialties such as information technology, risk management and compliance – jobs most likely to be cut in a merger, Aston says.

Mergers typically are driven by the need to cut costs and increase revenue, he adds. “Cutting costs always means cutting people.”

BB&T and SunTrust will try to retain some people in leadership and production roles, including branch employees and loan officers, he says. But the merger will create a talent pool in Virginia.

“Mergers typically present opportunities for banks of our size to pick up talented people in roles that are hard to come by in today’s world,” Aston says.

As of mid-July, Atlantic Union had already picked up around 20 BB&T and SunTrust employees, ranging from branch workers to commercial banking and credit officers. Most of the new hires were looking to get ahead of potential post-merger personnel shakeups.

“The coming disruption has been a catalyst [for job-seekers],” Asbury says. For workers who were already inclined to make a change, the merger “probably accelerated their decision-making.”

BB&T and SunTrust are well respected in banking circles, and BB&T, in particular, is accomplished in acquisitions.

“Any time there is a merger, especially one of this size, there will be a certain number of folks who won’t be happy,” Aston says. “From a bigger perspective, no bank in the country over the last 30 years has done an acquisition better than BB&T.”

Asbury holds both institutions in high regard, saying, “They will do as good a job as they can with executing one of the largest bank mergers in recent history.”

Globally, “the merger is an all-clear sign that the financial system has repaired itself from the Great Recession,” Engelke says. “The economy has entered into a new era where monies will gravitate back to Main Street from Wall Street.

“The regulatory entities must approve this merger and, in my opinion, the merger is an indication that not only are both banks run efficiently, but also the odds that any issue can create a systemic problem are low,” Engelke continues. “The ‘too big to fail’ mantra does not apply in this situation.”